I cant get to 50k without replacing a frame or slide. Glock firing pin portruding from breech face the high road. Recently i was in a gun shop and a customer was returning a glock that had a cracked breech face. Having cracked 2 myself, and having seen first hand at least a dozen others, in person, not internet posts, they crack at the nose ring, ejection port and blow out the breech face from repeated dry firing. Ive never seen a breech face like this one on my new 9c. Yesterday was the optimal test for gen 5 19s with and without the breech face cut.
Catastrophic glock g19 gen 3 failure breech face crack. It must have come off during dry firing but every post i see about this tells me that a glock firing pin breaking due to dry fire is unpossible. He is an animal though, so that is a huge amount of reps. Anyone every hear of a glock firing pin breaking from dry. I never thought id be making this thread, but my slide is inoperable because the breech face cracked, making an almost perfect circle. Naturally i took the sa pro out of the safe and since its on my ccw i am going to roll with it a while. If the barrel is bulged, bargain hard, for a replacement wont be cheap.
Theres a circular crack in the breech face, much like other pics ive seen on this site. Glock 19 gen 3 erratic ejection, aka brass to face. My 17 gen 4 breech face cracked after about 20,000 rounds and countless actually probably 100,000 dry fires. There are less the 500 rounds through it, a mix of federal 115s, and handloaded 124jhps on top of 5. The first thing to do is buy from a reputable shop, one with a clear return policy. Glock sort of succeeded in making a training product that resembles the real thing because it is, in part, a real gun.
Find the best glock accessories available when you shop online at. Discussion in general glocking started by jack black, mar, 2011. A critical look at the glock 17 hi powers and handguns. Month 15 are you going to do some accuracy testing before it ends. Locked breech is the design of a breechreloading firearms action. Otherwise, 2 cracked breechfaces, 1 cracked slide, and 2 with left rear rail breaking 3 guns. This is a gen 3 glock 19 with austrian roll marks assembled in feb. Another falacie in this story is that he emailed glock nowhere can anyone seem to be able to find a way to email glock.
Gen5 the glock pistols of the 5th generation combine the technology of the future with improved precision, versatility, speed and the familiar reliability. Dec 19, 2008 glock as admitted that the breech face wall is thin enough to be damaged with extremely high volumes of dry fire e. Glock 30sf dry fire question firearms talk the community. The glock 17 and sig sauer p226 are two of the most popular handguns on the american firearms market. In the early 80s the austrian army adopted this new handgun design and soon hit the us market in a big way with the establishment of glock, inc, in smyrna, ga, in 85. I dont seem to have any issues on my 1911s with the breech face pitting but my glock is falling apart. Inspect the extractor on the breech face of the slide for cleanliness and to make sure the extractor claw is not broken or chipped. Glock gun cleaning in 10 easy steps gun education uscca. Mar 05, 2016 you can find many more of these articles online. I had two novice shooters with me at the outdoor range. Catastrophic g19 gen 3 failure breech face crack in mid november of this last year, i found this when i was cleaning my g19 after a shooting session no issues then and realized i couldnt rack my slide the protrusion was preventing the barrel from dropping free. Gen 5 breech face cut poll page 3 the leading glock. I found this when i was cleaning my g19 after a shooting session no issues then and realized i couldnt rack my slide the protrusion was preventing the barrel from dropping free.
This is not only normal, but intentional and by design. My slide was milled by suarez for an rmr, has anyone had any experience with whether or not glock will replace the slide. I am going to a titanium guide rod and was wondering if you could explain different recoil spring weights. This is important in understanding how a selfreloading firearm works. I dont reload ammo for the gun and all ammo fired through it was blazer or gold dots. The glock is a series of polymerframed, short recoiloperated, locked breech semiautomatic pistols designed and produced by austrian manufacturer glock ges.
I bought the glock used, but it has functioned flawlessly. Stay connected with glock for news, events and more. Unfortunately, as you might be able to see from your glock that the breech face is very thin, especially around the opening for the firing. Not the first polymer frame pistol made, this is the one that started the revolution to plastic pistols. From ultimate triggers and holsters to magazines and custom items, our business has the items you need. I was shooting speer lawmen 115gr in todays session. Ive cracked 3 g17s, 2 at the forward ejection port and one at the nose ring where the recoil assy sits.
Extend the life of your glock by learning about proper care and cleaning. I have a g19 that has breech face damage or whatever you want to call it. When i go to a stiffer recoil spring, the extreme spreads drop. All shooting is performed on state approved firing ranges under the supervision of. Ive heard about breech face failures in the past, but it s almost mythical because of the rarity of it happening. This is how it was explained in glock s armorers course years ago. Check your breech face and inspect your handguns when you can. When its brand new, before its fired for the first time.
Though i strongly respect the glock line of handguns, i do not subscribe to the company motto proclaiming glock perfection. Glock as admitted that the breech face wall is thin enough to be damaged with extremely high volumes of dry fire e. I field stripped it and noticed something that seems like a small hairlike crack in the magazine well, right next to the mold injection mark. So i was wondering if any ya people have experienced the same. But i recently heard that there were cases where the breach face got cracked open from excessive dryfire so now glock issued a warning to customers. With a smith on premises, you can be pretty sure every used gun in inventory went through his hands. The new glock model 20 comes with a recoil spring that allows the breech face to open too soon and my new glock model 20 will get extreme spreads of about 100fps with the factory spring installed. Make sure your sights are fixed in place and not cracked. Here we see the cracked breech face of a glock 19 that was fired less than 100 times with only factory ball ammunition. Upon close examination with a watchmakers loupe, it looks like there is a relief cast in the slide for the extractor, and the breech face is machined flat. He is an animal though, so that is a huge amount of.
If your glock frame has cracked, where did the cracks occur and what caused the cracks. One reason i dont do glock anymore springfield xd forum. I hear all over the place that its ok to dry fire glocks regularly. Glock replaced this gun free, but it serves as a reminder that nothing is perfect and that lemons can come from any manufacturer. Your glock pistol should be cleaned and lubricated. If i remember correctly gabe white said on pf thread that he cracked a glock breech face even using snap caps. It may be manufacturing defect that causes the breech face on a glock to fail, although it is supposedly due to excessive dry firing i. There were also a couple of cracks starting from the firing pin hole and extending outward. I dont see how the extractor could contact the breech face. I sent the slide back to glock and they said it was an ammo problem having to do with the primers. The firearm entered austrian military and police service by 1982 after it was the top performer in reliability and safety tests. Proper care of your pistol is the key to keeping it in good condition.
Subsequently, i did some research, and there is a rare but persistent tendency for glock breech faces to crack. Catastrophic g19 gen 3 failure breech face crack archive. From flat face pyramid triggers and holsters to magazines and custom items, our business has the items you need. I stripped the slide of everything including my night sights and sent it in to glock at georgia. Is anyone familiar with this and what could cause it. I have glock 21sf you know, looks just like the long rail trps, but without the levers and i have breech face erosion like that also. Every glock product delivers the ultimate combination of safety, speed, simple operation, optimum ergonomics, minimal weight and low maintenance costs.
I shoot a lot of 180 grain federal and winchester target ammo but i would like to have the option of personal defense as well. Complete with video, tons of pics, and recommended toolscleaners. To make sure your glock pistol keeps working reliably, you should clean and lubricate it on a regular schedule. Aug 17, 2009 glock is not plastic that is a myth is was tested anyway i have a glock shot about 1500 rounds though it and onley had 1 jam with the shell getting stuck common problem with handguns it was onley a glock 17 glock was a break though design other manufacters dident want the glock around thats how that myth came about would it be used by millitary and law enforcement accross the world if it. To my eye, the glock 17r magazines are identical beyond the red floorplate to regular glock magazines, and on my last range visit, i confirmed that the red floorplate magazines will function correctly in a fully firing glock. The pin certainly didnt break from overuse and the glock pin is supposed to be particularly robust. Shenani i did a test at the 50,000 round mark and will do another before the test ends regardless of whether that is due to starting the next test or sending the gun back to glock. In the simplest terms, the locked breech is one way to slow down the opening of the breech of a selfreloading firearm when fired. Does anyone know whether or not i should use snap caps. When i dry fire my g23 there is a pronounced shimmy in the sight alignment, rightthen left. Then if i slowly cycle the slide, the safety engages it back. Well lets see some highmileage examples and common glock problems duration. Ive read a few blogs talking about glock frame cracks. I just replaced the take down pin from ruger after rounds or more and wanted to test it at the range no problems went.
Unfortunately, as you might be able to see from your glock that the breech face is very thin, especially around the opening for the firing pin. The glock pistol has without a doubt become the preferred sidearm of many law enforcement agencies in the united states. Advanced armorer class notes glock brian enoss forums. A smooth breech face is more prone to case sticking during ejection. The replacement glock 19 has been fired steadily with no problems whatsoever. A glock armorer has looked at it and said there isnt anything obvious wrong with the extractor, spring, plunger, or ejector. This is how it was explained in glocks armorers course years ago. Ive seen one in which the breech face of a brand spankin new g19 cracked after but a few standard pressure factory rounds. Glock oem factory guide rod recoil spring assembly gen 3 glock 19 23 23p 32 38. If i rack the slide forward, and hit the back of the slide with my palm, and then open the pistol, the friing pin is protruding form the breech face. Registering your glock provides an additional level of protection and allows glock to provide you with timely information, quickly and efficiently. The commercial market is just as large if not the largest in the country. The short recoil locked breech design came from the 1911series handgun, while the double.
Given the common maladies of aging, such as arthritis, which affect hand strength and dexterity, old geezers like myself who carry a handgun everyday for selfdefense want something reliable, thats easy to operate and simple to maintain. They operate by phone and fax alone unless he somehow has some sort of internal connection there. I wanted to know from you guys if there are issues using reloads or certain primers that can corrode a breech face. It comes from the reloads my department gives us to use at the range. The allblack glock slimline models g43x rail and g48 rail. The glock field knives were designed for close combat, they are balanced. While cleaning the g27 i noticed what appears to be a line or crack on the breech face behind the extractor. I stripped the g23 and noticed that it too has the same line crack in the same place. As will mentions whatever forces imparted on the bullet, gets transferred into the breech face.
What i believe youre referring to is a cracked breech face which is extremly rare ive only heard of 2 cases both of which are as always are replaced by glock for free and the occurance with the. Both had shot my early production 19 about a month earlier without the breech face cut and had several back to face. The best chance of buying a good used gun is from a shop with a gunsmith in residence. I use ismi springs but do not fully understand the difference in. I think i just cracked my slide during dryfire practice. I would say xd is a better platform, not because im some fanboy but because i my self have put high round counts through both styles of pistol, had a glock 19 that after 4000 rounds suffered breech face crack, got it back from glock 1200 rounds later, frame cracked. The fact that there are a couple of breech face failures from live firing compared to the larger number of breech face failures from dry firing is enough to lead me to. Glock pistols offer a variety of features to fit specific needs. I just picked up a gen 2 glock 17 with a lot of miles on it. Apr 24, 2015 am i correct in what is going on here. When i go to a stiffer recoil spring, the extreme spreads drop to about 50 fps in my new glock model 20. Also if you notice, glock uses a rectangular opening and not an round opening. Ive heard about breech face failures in the past, but was almost mythical because of the rarity of it. Our videos are strictly for documentary, educational, and entertainment purposes only.
May 09, 2008 i hear all over the place that its ok to dry fire glock s regularly. Not sure, just noticed it after i detailed stripped it. The line you see appears to be just the edge of the castin relief where it meets the flat of the breech face, and not a crack. Refer to your owners manual for the proper lubrication points, as well as the proper amounts of lubrication required.
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